This entry was posted on 8/14/2008 10:34 PM and is filed under 2008 Election, All Posts.
For a quick lesson in how to take down "Clinton dead-enders" (read: Republicans in sheep's clothing), take a few minutes to observe how David Shuster does it.
It's a 2-1 debate, and he played them like frigging Chopsticks.
8/16/2008 5:06 AM
Chiten wrote:
Wow, the owner of this blog is a total moron. Does he really buy the crap he's spreading? Poor guy, he's bathing in the kool aid instead of just drinking it. He's been posting on sites that don't agree with his view and whining about being banned after he breaks the rules. then he says "come to my site, I won't ban you no matter what, I'll let you say whatever you want". Let's see if he's telling the truth or not. So "will", if that's your nonimer of the week, why do you go to sites that are opposed to you for the soul purpose of disrupting them and making them even more set against you? You're doing more damage to your candidate than good. Nobody is going to take you seriously and you are just angering people into being even more set against BO. Why are you setting out to destroy the candidate you pretend to support? Reply to this
"Why are you setting out to destroy the candidate you pretend to support?"
Obviously, I'm not. But that's not something I expect you to understand.
Thanks for stopping by. True to my word, I have neither edited nor deleted your comment. Anything short of endless streams of curse words, bereft of an idea or argument, will always be tolerated at this site. Reply to this
8/18/2008 10:43 PM
Chiten wrote:
At this point, I don't support any candidate. I am, however, very much AGAINST one candidate. Obama would be the worst thing that could possibly happen to the US. He is TRYING to portray McCain as bush's third term, but the reality is that Obama is bush's third term. They are carbon copies on opposite ends of the political spectrum. Neither is able to speak without a teleprompter. Neither has/had the experience needed to be POTUS. Neither has released all the information about their past that they should. Both shift positions as the wind blows. I really hate to say it, because I despise bush, but I actually think he may be a bit smarter than Obama. Obama is a dirty, crooked chicago politician who climbed the ladder by stepping on the backs of others. He never won a fair election. His favorite method of winning is to get his opposition disqualified so he runs unopposed. Hillary Clinton didn't let that happen, although he tried extremely hard to do so. The convention is stacked and he has his backup plans in place just in case the delegates decide to detox from the koolaid and prevent him from taking the nomination, thus destroying the Democratic Party. Both Clinton supporters and Obama opponents, as well as those who are both, are not going to stay in a party that blatantly disinfranchises them. They won't fall into line and do as they are told, that's not what democrats do and him suggesting they do adds insult to injury. There are documented cases of fraud at each of the caucuses he "won", there are questions about his citizenship that have a great deal of support and evidence, his own voting record speaks against him. We still don't have his COLB (the real one) We still don't have his college records. We still don't have his thesis. We still don't have any articles from him from Harvard Law We don't have his passportS, either the American one or the Indonesian one. We don't have documentation of when he changed his name to Obama from Soetoro. There is an entire laundry list of items that he refuses to release because he knows there is incriminating evidence abounding in them. Barack Obama/Barry Soetor is not fit to be president either legally, mentally, psychologically, morally or ethically. He is a crook and a charlatan and he will be defeated either at the convention or in the General election. If half the democrats are against him, all the republican and indepents are against him, then he will lose by a 3 to 1 margin, that's 75% to 25%. He has the audacity to anger entire voting blocks as if their vote isn't important. This isn't the primary and the GOP won't play with kid gloves. obama will wish he had never considered this run by the time it's over. His political career is over because he didn't have the patience to go through the system and gain the experience and he didn't bother getting his citizenship in check (which will ultimately disqualify him). He chose his friends very poorly and will suffer as a result. Reply to this
Seriously, do you No Quarter folks just copy and paste EVERYTHING? This is the same laundry list I read on the PUMA sites day in and day out. Try having an original thought for a change.
Obama will lose the election 75-25%? That is the stupidest thing anyone has ever said about American politics ever. Have you ever actually followed a presidential election in your life? Go read a book. Stop believing everything Larry Johnson tells you. He's a professional liar, a Republican thug who is playing you and the rest of the fanatics like a violin.
Go outside, leave the computer, get some fresh air, try operating on some form of emotion other than pure, unadulterated grievance. You'll feel better, and you'll live longer.
8/21/2008 8:58 PM
Chiten wrote:
the 75%-25% comes from the full republican party (that's 50%) and half the democratic party (25%). Add those together, you get 75%. That leaves the half of the democratic party that supports obama, that is 25%. Independents will break evenly among the groups producing an obama loss of 75% to 25%. McCain will win by a landslide because nobody wants obama to be POTUS besides that 25% of extremists in the democratic party similar to the 25% in the republican party that still supports bush regardless of HIS lies and deceit. I don't need NoQuarter to see truth, it's all around us. You may be unwilling to see it, but it doesn't mean it isn't there. Reply to this
That's a syllogism, blind to American political history and current trends. Just because you want something to happen doesn't mean it will.
17 million Clinton voters are NOT voting for McCain--polls show something like only 18-20% of Clinton supporters are considering voting for McCain. So your "half the democratic party" figure that you claim will oppose Obama just doesn't hold water. Your argument also ignores the many moderate Republicans (Lincoln Chafee, Colin Powell, Jim Leach) who are crossing the aisle to Obama. It ignores the fact that 50% of a low turnout from the GOP is for them a bad year. If the GOP base is as depressed by McCain and the Bush presidential legacy as they say, their turnout will perform terribly. 50% of jack squat is just jack squat, "my friend".
Neither candidate is guaranteed to win this election. But no presidential candidate loses 75-25 in our 2-party system. Not Goldwater, not McGovern, not Mondale, not Dukakis. No one. Reply to this
1. Contrary to what Obamabots say ... Obama and Hillary were in a dead heat, when the DNC pressured Hillary into not only conceding, but campaigning for Obama. 2. Obama is once again in a dead heat, but now with McCain, even though Obamabots act like Obama has already won (like they did in the primaries against Hillary). So, this means that half of the Democrats, and all the Republicans (3/4 of America) dIdn't want Obama. Plus, he didn't even win the popular vote, and refused a revote in Michigan and Florida. 3. Obama has the thinnest resume in politics, and he won state legislature and Senator by disqualifications of his opponents, not by earned experience, or votes. 4. Obama's one claim to fame is being a community organizer, where he boasts of registering voters. Then he took their votes away from them, by disqualifying his opponents on technicalities, prior to the election. 5. Obama's mentor of 20 years, was an anti-American racist ... not to mention other unsavory associations. 6. Obama is simply buying the election, since he's good at fund raising ... hardly a qualification to be President of the United States. 7. The media never vetted Obama, and they are giving him a free ride, plus more than twice the print and air time as McCain, as they did against Hillary. 8. 90% of blacks are voting for Obama, because he is black, while the campaign gained ground by accusing most opponents of racism. 9. Obamabots were, and are extremely nasty and sarcastic towards Hillary supporters, as well as McCain supporters. 10. Pumas should be applauded for putting country before party ... especially a party that did not represent them, and a party which highjacked the nomination for Obama. 11. Obama added insult to injury, when he didn't even consider Hillary for V.P. ... nor did he even call her ... even though she got 18 million votes in the primary. 12. Obama and the DNC are now holding a gun to the heads of Hillary and Bill Clinton, giving them an ultimatum ... either support Obama, or kiss your future in the DNC and politics goodbye.
P.S. Michelle Obama subjected her two young children to anti-American racists ... Jeremiah Wright, Farrakahn, Pfleiger, and others at the black liberation Trinity church in Chicago, for several years. Is this who you want for first lady ... I don't think so !! Reply to this
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